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Poster: bullie89 Date: Aug 22, 2012 9:24pm
Forum: movies Subject: Charade (1963) With Cary Grant I got a strike for posting this film!

There are at least three copies of 'Charade' (1963) with Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn in the Archive. When I posted it to YouTube it was claimed by NBC Universal. I filed a counter notice and gave the info including the Archive header for the film. Has anyone gotten a strike for posting this film? It has been in the archive for years.

Thanks.

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Aug 27, 2012 3:58pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Charade (1963) With Cary Grant I got a strike for posting this film!

Video-Cellar wrote:

The movie was snatched back into copyright the same way as "It's a Wonderful Life" was. Mancini's music is copyright which is not a problem in itself as the music can easily be licensed for reuse. The main issue is the story that it is based on remains in copyright and Universal own the exclusive film rights to the story which would be violated by using the film as PD.


http://archive.org/post/341468

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Poster: Laurel L. Russwurm Date: Sep 21, 2014 2:43pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Charade (1963) With Cary Grant I got a strike for posting this film!

The 1963 movie "Charade" went into the Public Domain the moment it was released. The law was subsequently changed to give movie studios a 5 year grace period so this mistake wouldn't happen again. Now, of course, copyright has been changed again so much that it is automatic and perpetual. But *that* doesn't change the fact that "Charade" is in the Public Domain, because it went directly into the Public Domain under the terms of the law that was in effect then.

It doesn't matter that the story was under copyright, or even that the Universal owns the rights to the story. All that that does is to allow Universal to license the story to someone else so they can make a turkey like "The Truth About Charlie. the 1963 Stanley Donen movie is still in the Public Domain. When the 1963 movie was made, arrangements were made for the rights to the story and the music.

If copyright status was predicated on the copyright status of the work on which a movie is based, then every Disney movie based on a Public Domain story would necessarily be in the Public Domain. The way copyright law works is that a new work is entitled to copyright. Either one can be true but not both.

In the beginning there was the public domain. The moment anything was published, it went into the public domain. Copyright abridges the rights of the public; the deal was supposed to be that we retained title to the Public Domain. If we stand by and allow specious arguments like this one to overwhelm common sense, there won't be a Public Domain for our children.

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Poster: bullie89 Date: Aug 27, 2012 11:20pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Charade (1963) With Cary Grant I got a strike for posting this film!

Indeed, they are remaking the film and that is why I got the strike. I sent them the info from the archive and mentioned there are two files for the film. I used my own copy which I often do so I don't know why they say they can't give the film back.

I upload the file from my Laptop and the file stays with me. So, why does YouTube think I can't have the film 'returned'? They are just daft.

We will see what happens but I am really annoyed by this. How do people deal with content ID matches with the music in these old PD films? These claimants buy a few minutes of music for a film and they often put a hold on it for months!

There is no way to file a complaint against any of these folks either! Thanks for the response and the Video Cellar is awesome, I always put it in the tags but the tags are not shown after the film is processed!

Apple should buy YouTube.

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Sep 13, 2012 5:58am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Charade (1963) With Cary Grant I got a strike for posting this film!

As Video-Cellar indicated, the original Charade (1963) is under copyright and should not be uploaded.

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Poster: bullie89 Date: Sep 14, 2012 1:16am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Charade (1963) With Cary Grant I got a strike for posting this film!

When I filed my counternotice they released their claim. When that happened I had a letter from YouTube stating so and said it was alright to upload the film. If the Company releases the claim then they too believe it is in the Public Domain.

I will not take chance since YouTube's content ID system is totally screwed.

Thanks.

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Poster: bullie89 Date: Sep 15, 2012 12:34am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Charade (1963) With Cary Grant I got a strike for posting this film!

Here is the info about the film:

Re: [#1099211406] New YouTube Copyright Counter Notification

Copyright Service copyright@youtube.com

Sep 6 (9 days ago)

to me
Hi there,

In accordance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we've completed
processing your counter-notification regarding your video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgzGJvuhJgU

This content has been restored unless you have deleted the video(s). Your
account will not be penalized.

Regards,


The YouTube Team

It is just confusing due to their content ID system. I am very tired of this stuff!

Thanks!

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Poster: Laurel L. Russwurm Date: Sep 21, 2014 2:25pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Charade (1963) With Cary Grant I got a strike for posting this film!

It is gone again; there is a "This video is unavailable." message at the end of your link.

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Poster: bullie89 Date: Aug 25, 2012 10:54pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Charade (1963) With Cary Grant I got a strike for posting this film!

This was a mistake as there is a new film on the horizon that has the same name. The strike will be removed.

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